I actually agree that no statistics proves more guns = more crime or other way around.

You can spin the Virginia (on NY, for that matter) statistics any way you want. One thing is clear, there is no indisputable evidence to support gun-control position.

Since you guys want to take my guns, you need to prove more guns = more crimes and you can't.

Even if you can, you still have to justify taking MY gun and thereby my freedom to own one. I am still waiting for liberals to come up with any intellectual reasons.