More realistic was the comment by Republican Congressman from Texas, Joe Barton, who traveled to Copenhagen: "I don't consider what China is doing to be obstruction, I consider it to be reality. They are not going to, all of a sudden, put aside all of the technology and economic development they are doing just to meet some political goal in the West.... I don't hold it against them. What would we have done in 1850, if England, France and Germany said ... 'You can't build factories'? We would have told them to go jump in a lake."