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Please sign my name to your list. Deng4 Kan3 ------------------- ÁõÌú(Liu Tie)£¬±±¾©Ê¦·¶´óѧÎÞÏßµçµç×Óѧϵѧʿ£¬±±¾©´óѧµç×Óѧϵ²©Ê¿£¬ ͨÐÅϵͳÑо¿¿ª·¢¹¤³Ìʦ¡£ ÎÒ¶ÔÅúÅз¨ÂÖ¹¦µÄÐÐΪ¾ÙË«ÊÖÖ§³Ö¡£ Ï£ÍûÀíÐԵĹââÕÕÁÁÖйúÌڷɵÄÇ°³Ì¡£ ±¾ÈËƽÉúÓÐÐÒñöÌý¹ýºÎìñâÓÏÈÉúµÄ½²×ù¡£ -------------------- Hi Fang, Thank you very much for taking your time checking my paper and posting it at xys.org. Here I found a great paper by Jin An. http://www.china101.com/politics/messages/72387.html. It'd be great if it can be collected to your site. The idea of doing some research to find the biblio of Li Hongzhi is a terrific idea. As the above paper mentioned, most followers do not, or can not or do not care to, understand the superficial scientific statements in Li's works. They believe every word of it. The root of the problem is that they believe Li is The God. To publish the result of this biblio research can destroy that illusion. Noting that most followers do not have the educational background as those protesters like you and me, this I think is a better way for them to at least begin to doubt what they were told to believe. The more news I read, the more I believe that this organization is very well organized, very efficient, very powerful and hence very dangerous! Given the global political situation that US is targeting our country, this organization could very much likely be used to against our country. It's my belief that more dramatic approach must be taken urgently. Best Regards, Yanming --------------------- Based on my best judgement and to the best of my knowledge, I regard Falungong as a dangerous cult. While acknowledging their right for existence, I condemn their ignorance, their intolerance and their anti-intellectualism. 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