送交者: Yush 于 2005-11-10, 14:30:30:

回答: 谁有肖的“反射弧”在美国手术成功的具体数据？ 由 Latino2 于 2005-11-10, 13:15:43:

美国两例效果是：
“a Q max of 8 cc/sec and no DESD. Voided volume was 150cc and post-void residual was 200 cc's”
尿出来150毫升、残留200毫升。敢情还有一多半还憋在膀胱里，不知道这算不算成功。

中国15例效果就好多了：
“residual urine decreased from 332 to 31 ml”
尿出来301毫升、残留31毫升。

版主对南周记者说：“在打官司的过程中进一步揭露真相”。wait and see.

• Now I see. Thanks. - Latino2 (43 bytes) 2005-11-10, 14:37:21
  • There is no science since there is no control - 大胖星 (754 bytes) 2005-11-10, 14:54:03
    • Shi-Min Chang's comment - Yush (590 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:21:37
    • Where does the quote come from? Is it a reviewer's comment? - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:12:06
      • http://print.nap.edu/pdf/0309095859/pdf_image/162.pdf - wasguru (0 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:23:34
        • Ok, I found it form 立此存照.肖传国事件. Sorry for my ignorance. - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:41:04
        • Thanks. - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:33:48
  • this data alone doesn't show the whole picture - 匆匆过客 (225 bytes) 2005-11-10, 14:51:37
    • The question then is: Is it too early to know the real effect? - Latino2 (73 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:11:06
      • I guess it depends on where you ask this question - 匆匆过客 (583 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:27:04
        • Agree. But right now, it will very difficult to convince people - Latino2 (118 bytes) 2005-11-10, 15:44:00
          • 偶觉得逻辑上是这样：你只要说错一件事，你就是诬蔑 - xj (163 bytes) 2005-11-10, 16:38:21
            • 这个官司即使输了也会“赢” - Yush (211 bytes) 2005-11-10, 17:07:04

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