给skipper3看看，上海市地铁口房价和租房价格之比。

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送交者: bluesea 于 2005-3-22, 15:34:56:

此价格是酒店式公寓（大家可以去看照片是什么样的）：

一房一厅式（带厨房) 96 平方米 RMB5,200-6,000

房价为15K RMB/m2

你那普通装修的90多平米的房子想租4800一个月，不是
“冲头”是什么。在上海现在还有能靠租放补上贷款利息
的房子？你介绍我，有多少我要多少。

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等於20万美元，还算可以吧？ - 随便 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 19:56:56
都在叫泡沫泡沫的，能给出一个比较可观的指标么？ - 元江 (120 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:39:31
- 隔壁打小麻将的大妈也炒房了 - 乱劈材 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:48:46
这skipper3 是不是应该给炎样道歉呢？ - bluesea (251 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:31:23
- Hahaha...you are so funny. - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:33:24
  - 哦,不愿意啊.很正常啊. - bluesea (302 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:45:13
    - ...and out of your mind - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 20:20:52
    - 镜像没有论坛吧? - wangle (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 19:23:52
guys. My recommendation is based on this statement - skipper3 (80 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:26:32
- 哦？这位不是在那里大叫年入10万，买房才吵的？ - bluesea (210 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:33:34
  - Stupid! You asked me a specific question and I answered - skipper3 (35 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:38:49
    - 这就是你的回答？真聪明啊。 - bluesea (316 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:44:12
      - TMD. Last post for you. 945k*0.054/12=4.3k - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:53:02
        
        Your number is for interest only - you are not repaying the principal. - Enlighten (39 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:10:28
        
        That's the point! If annual inflation is 4%, 945k - skipper3 (108 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:16:01
        
        point is: do banks allow you to take interest-only loans in china? - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:17:31
        
        That's technicality. There are many ways to deal with it. - skipper3 (302 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:25:37
        
        Hmmm, that's really technicality. - wasguru (76 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:31:52
        
        Sorry, I didn't realize that you made yet another assumption... - wasguru (73 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:39:30
        
        hey are we talking RMB or USD? - skipper3 (164 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:52:16
        
        You are right. - wasguru (212 bytes) 2005-3-22, 18:24:14
        
        you are right. - skipper3 (351 bytes) 2005-3-22, 18:31:44
        
        可是你依然算错。 - bluesea (71 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:02:11
        
        but your figure was RMB4290. Where does that come from? - wasguru (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:58:43
        
        So I got the last 2 digits wrong. Does it matter? - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:01:42
        
        Yes, it matters. - wasguru (67 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:09:04
        
        speaking of every cent count, for years I've been after - steven (379 bytes) 2005-3-22, 18:40:16
        
        well, maybe you should swtich to the hard drive industry :) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 18:59:48
        
        their k = 1024 even for salary? that is cool, however, - steven (65 bytes) 2005-3-22, 22:09:14
        
        No, their k = 1000 even for bytes. Isn't that hot? - wasguru (0 bytes) 2005-3-23, 02:01:16
        
        it is so hot, even cool :) - steven (0 bytes) 2005-3-23, 02:09:58
        
        You are so Like. - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 17:13:09
        
        你就跟一只薄嘴唇的狐狸似的, - shine (83 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:57:01
        
        criticize accepted. I am going drop it for good - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:58:53
- This is meaningless - what if I put 80% down payment? - Enlighten (181 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:32:30
  - in China, the downpayment is higher - Jingyi (62 bytes) 2005-3-22, 18:22:29
  - 贷款计算器。 - bluesea (139 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:41:18
你最近要回上海吗 - Nono (18 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:15:03
- 不回也被朋友说明白了。 - bluesea (102 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:23:10
  - It's hard - Jingyi (131 bytes) 2005-3-22, 18:21:10
SOunds a very good deal. - skipper3 (674 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:07:12
- 按你这算法你不是给银行看房子捏?70到期了你的equity都一点没涨 - Smashedmouth (35 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:24:21
  - Think it this way. - skipper3 (739 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:37:21
    - How can interest rate "about the same" when inflation goes up? - Enlighten (67 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:46:54
      - doesn't matter. see below - skipper3 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:53:32
    - 你的两个假设都有问题.一是inflation, 2是利率. - Smashedmouth (203 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:41:51
      - Wrong. There always be inflation as long as wages - skipper3 (701 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:50:27
        
        1. "as long as"....another assumption 2. There are cases where - Smashedmouth (35 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:54:35
        
        yeah one has to take chance to be a winner. - skipper3 (54 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:56:53
        
        One has to take "calculated" risk, while your calculations - Smashedmouth (16 bytes) 2005-3-22, 19:20:28
        
        Where did I calculate risk? - skipper3 (111 bytes) 2005-3-22, 20:02:13
        
        When things can go both ways, you assume they will go - Smashedmouth (110 bytes) 2005-3-22, 20:26:27
        
        No no no. That's not "my way" if you mean the best - skipper3 (322 bytes) 2005-3-22, 21:19:06
- 您这经济怎么学的？首款不能认为是白来的。要加2000元/月。 - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:14:33
  - You are talking opportunity cost. - skipper3 (414 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:24:46
  - 因为首款这个钱如果没放房子里可作他用(投资或生息)-- 这叫机会成本。 - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:17:49
- skipper 我求求你啦，做好调研再来算。 - bluesea (202 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:11:52
  - are you talking interest or interest+principal? - skipper3 (47 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:14:50
    - 我说“月还” - bluesea (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:20:35
  - 80万贷款5500还是夫妻公积金全满的情况下。 - bluesea (123 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:14:26
  - he doesn't even know China's mortgage rate is not fixed - 炎阳 (37 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:14:23
上海这种状况只能靠对将来升值的期望来支持。 - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:05:01
最可怕的是现在狂炒的资金大部份是从银行靠关系贷出的，疯狂呵！ - 炎阳 (291 bytes) 2005-3-22, 15:53:23
- 冷静的分析可能还会持久很多时间。 - bluesea (208 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:07:43
  - 可以学香港搞廉屋计划嘛 - 2Cul4U4 (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:24:03
- 不一定。 - bluesea (393 bytes) 2005-3-22, 15:59:12
  - What is the weight is the 外资? - boxer (322 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:16:12
  - I don't believe it! 你这又被媒体炒作骗了，真以为外资都看好上海了 - 炎阳 (136 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:06:57
    - 我从来不相信上海报纸，且相信房产肯定会蹦盘。 - bluesea (387 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:19:37
    - 如果信息开放，就可以查到外商具体的数字，防止造谣炒作。 - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:10:29
- 跳什么楼？赚了是自己的，亏了是国家的。难怪这些人说中国好。 - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 15:58:55
  - 也有跟风去炒的冤大头。偶组里的上海大姐，自已啃萝卜头，住Apt - 炎阳 (82 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:02:44
    - 跳楼的是用自己钱的，不是能“从银行贷出了几个亿炒房”的那种人。 - Enlighten (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:08:12
      - 他们也有风险，多是挪用专项资金或凑借，讲求cash flow, 不能套住 - 炎阳 (50 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:11:40
补充一下 - bluesea (173 bytes) 2005-3-22, 15:52:34
房价奇贵，租房超便宜，这不是房产泡沫是什么？ - bluesea (242 bytes) 2005-3-22, 15:40:13
- 会不会出现房价超便宜租价奇贵的现象，出现了该怎么称呼这种现象？房产疙瘩？ - 2Cul4U4 (12 bytes) 2005-3-22, 15:56:21
  - It's normal rent is comparatively lower than in many parts - skipper3 (143 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:10:45
  - 那可能是1,没有户口不让买房;2,多数人现金流不够;3,要打仗了 - Smashedmouth (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:08:18
    - 或者4）地震高发区 5）名胜古迹 - 2Cul4U4 (78 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:19:59
      - 6,七十使用期限快到了. 另:您怒把力把炎阳他家也弄成个古迹5的... - Smashedmouth (0 bytes) 2005-3-22, 16:46:26

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