中国空军一上来就在朝鲜战争中养成了贪生怕死仅仅防守从来不敢进攻的传统

送交者: HunHunSheng 于 2007-01-05, 16:15:12:

历史上唯一的两次进攻 are 大小和平岛 and 一江山岛.

Zhou Enlai once stated such attitude:"Now matter how much losses Lu Jun suffer can be replaced easily but this is not true for Kong Jun".

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空军作战行动不是用来证明自己胆子大的 - 揍汉奸 (94 bytes) 2007-01-05, 17:57:19 (118806)
- 朝鲜战争的时候中国空军不见得"远"弱于对方空军(某种意义上那时的差距比现在小) - HunHunSheng (178 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:46:04 (118846)
轰炸大和岛 - HunHunSheng (3687 bytes) 2007-01-05, 16:31:30 (118795)
- I also believe that it's a fake story, just like - 何人可 (294 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:13:08 (118829)
  - 你没看见志愿军方面损失是美军的两倍？ - 揍汉奸 (42 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:17:40 (118832)
    - My common sense tells me that - 何人可 (113 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:27:23 (118837)
      - 您以为你是谁？ - 揍汉奸 (224 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:33:08 (118840)
        
        I meant 轰炸机不可能打下歼击机. Also, as you said, - 何人可 (600 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:51:38 (118848)
        
        “轰炸机不可能打下歼击机”？？二战里这样的战例多了去了。 - 揍汉奸 (124 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:13:57 (118858)
        
        propeller against propeller is more feasible, propeller against jet, - PhonyDoctorPhD (57 bytes) 2007-01-05, 21:27:16 (118878)
        
        luck就luck罗 - 揍汉奸 (41 bytes) 2007-01-05, 21:40:04 (118884)
        
        nope, propeller vs propeller, bomber at least can aim :D (无内容) - PhonyDoctorPhD (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 22:55:39 (118896)
- this is very fake, the author doesn't know dogfight at all. - steven (163 bytes) 2007-01-05, 17:32:38 (118803)
  - 请问steven - 揍汉奸 (181 bytes) 2007-01-05, 17:53:23 (118805)
    - Are you able to count? What you said does not go along with - 何人可 (221 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:54:12 (118822)
      - 您再好好读一读？ - 揍汉奸 (274 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:09:37 (118828)
      - 统计不精确，伤、亡不分，伤、落也不分 (无内容) - JZ (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:59:41 (118825)
        
        这个不过是个新闻报道 - 揍汉奸 (46 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:15:12 (118831)
        
        Could you soly rely on <抗美援朝战争史> for the fact? Have you - 何人可 (104 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:21:47 (118835)
        
        呵呵，我至少还有本书作为讨论的依据 - 揍汉奸 (20 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:30:05 (118838)
        
        Wrong information hurts much worse than no information at all! (无内容) - 何人可 (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:33:16 (118841)
        
        呵呵，您以为您是谁？ - 揍汉奸 (61 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:19:33 (118859)
        
        除了说明你在胡说后才找的资料还能说明什么？ - janz (94 bytes) 2007-01-06, 12:48:08 (118965)
        
        Please see my new post above. Thanks! (无内容) - 何人可 (0 bytes) 2007-01-06, 05:22:14 (118930)
        
        你愿意相信什么，说什么都行，最少也要拿出一些有分量的证据再说话。 - janz (56 bytes) 2007-01-06, 05:17:04 (118929)
        
        Even a nobody should have the rights to express doubts on something fishy. (无内容) - 何人可 (0 bytes) 2007-01-06, 02:14:31 (118922)
        
        任何一只军队的战史都有错误 - 揍汉奸 (220 bytes) 2007-01-06, 00:27:15 (118912)
        
        跟错了，是给何人可的。 - janz (116 bytes) 2007-01-05, 23:28:31 (118904)
        
        真无聊，你要是觉得资料不对，去找出正确的反驳他啊？ - janz (120 bytes) 2007-01-05, 23:25:25 (118903)
        
        对中国方面的史料, I don't always 抱定死不承认的态度. But, this time, - 何人可 (364 bytes) 2007-01-05, 23:19:43 (118902)
        
        土共方面的战史确实有很多错 - 揍汉奸 (310 bytes) 2007-01-05, 21:08:27 (118873)
        
        The track record of the mainland publications made me think so. (无内容) - 何人可 (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:32:04 (118865)
    - 在距离很近的时候 - 揍汉奸 (112 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:03:02 (118809)
      - 计算超前量是很考技术的, - blessuuu (255 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:25:24 (118836)
        
        不矛盾啊！您好好读一下原文？ - 揍汉奸 (215 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:07:14 (118855)
        
        看你自己的原文: - blessuuu (95 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:21:48 (118861)
        
        您是否认为原文的描述是合理的呢？ (无内容) - 揍汉奸 (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:31:07 (118864)
        
        说明 - 揍汉奸 (140 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:29:19 (118863)
        
        你说的话,我没谈什么原来文章. - blessuuu (130 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:55:52 (118872)
        
        在切半径的时候 - blessuuu (184 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:31:19 (118839)
      - 今天晚上十点H channel - blessuuu (33 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:09:41 (118812)
        
        that's my son's favor show, and he had never missed a single episode. (无内容) - steven (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:14:47 (118814)
        
        我倒 - blessuuu (11 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:53:08 (118849)
      - Obviously you don't know dogfight. And "Yes," if both side - steven (123 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:06:28 (118810)
        
        呵呵，您老就不用冒充军事专家了 - 揍汉奸 (757 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:13:24 (118813)
        
        close range, 2 feet? Is that what you mean? (无内容) - steven (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:15:42 (118815)
        
        您就不用抵赖了 - 揍汉奸 (65 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:17:23 (118816)
        
        yes, but not as what it is described in that article. (无内容) - steven (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:21:29 (118818)
        
        文章里面哪里有错？ - 揍汉奸 (455 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:59:09 (118824)
        
        改口改得很快嘛 - 揍汉奸 (235 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:25:59 (118820)
        
        请回答我的问题 - 揍汉奸 (139 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:21:13 (118834)
        
        你究竟想说什么？ - 揍汉奸 (84 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:14:23 (118830)
        
        who tells you dog fight means to aircrafts playing merry-go-round? - steven (169 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:02:30 (118826)
    - see it yourself - steven (558 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:03:00 (118808)
      - 那又是谁告诉你在切半径时无法击落敌机 - 揍汉奸 (261 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:08:48 (118811)
        
        你对切半径战术理解有问题 - blessuuu (35 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:44:35 (118845)
        
        嗯，是有点搞混淆了 - 揍汉奸 (28 bytes) 2007-01-05, 20:34:29 (118866)
        
        a shorter turn makes your enemy on your tail to overshoot. - steven (183 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:20:38 (118817)
        
        请勿顾左右而言它 - 揍汉奸 (126 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:24:04 (118819)
        
        don't put your words into my mouth. I've never said that. (无内容) - steven (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 18:56:03 (118823)
        
        贵人多忘事？ - 揍汉奸 (166 bytes) 2007-01-05, 19:02:42 (118827)
而且非常要面子怕自己的飞机在地方被击落飞行员被人家活着 (无内容) - HunHunSheng (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 16:17:01 (118792)
- 要是我一定下令全体出动到对方领空作战要是所有的人都没回来 SO BE IT (无内容) - HunHunSheng (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 16:22:39 (118793)
  - 你为中国做出了巨大贡献 - 揍汉奸 (38 bytes) 2007-01-05, 17:58:06 (118807)
  - 你绝对是昏头将军 (无内容) - xinku (0 bytes) 2007-01-05, 17:31:15 (118802)

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